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		<title>Lonely Planet Travel Blog Awards</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Mar 2009 04:36:42 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Dan Roberts</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[For those that live under a rock and have missed it &#8211; Lonely Planet has its&#8217; first ever Travel Blog Awards.  More importantly, depending on how you look at things, however, is that Travel Generation has been nominated as one of the top 5 Group Authored Blogs.  AND most importantly we need your [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class="tweetmeme_button" style="float:right; position:relative; right:184px; top:34px;"><a href="http://api.tweetmeme.com/share?url=http%3A%2F%2Fxebidy.com%2Flonely-planet-travel-blog-awards%2F"><img src="http://api.tweetmeme.com/imagebutton.gif?url=http%3A%2F%2Fxebidy.com%2Flonely-planet-travel-blog-awards%2F" height="61" width="51" /></a></div><p>For those that live under a rock and have missed it &#8211; Lonely Planet has its&#8217; first ever <a title="Lonely Planet Travel Blog Awards" href="http://lplabs.com/2009/02/25/voting-open-for-the-2009-travel-blogger-awards/">Travel Blog Awards</a>.  More importantly, depending on how you look at things, however, is that <a title="Travel Generation" href="http://travelgeneration.com">Travel Generation</a> has been nominated as one of the top 5 Group Authored Blogs.  AND most importantly we need your votes!</p>
<p>Travel Generation is only in an embyonic phase so it is a great honour for us to actually be nominated &#8211; especially when you consider the other sites include <a title="Mr and Mrs Smith" href="http://blog.mrandmrssmith.com/">Mr and Mrs Smith</a> and the <a href="http://matadornetwork.com/">Matador Network</a>.</p>
<p>Nonetheless, I think Travel Generation does have a style all of its, all the writers write very pesonally and there is a good deal of emphasis put onto having good images.  Incidentially, we are still on the look out for more travel bloggers.</p>
<p>So, this is a pleading call to all and any to help us get Travel Generation voted the <a href="http://lplabs.com/2009/02/25/voting-open-for-the-2009-travel-blogger-awards/#polls-11">Top Group Authored Blog in the Lonely Planet Awards</a>.  This link will take you exactly to where you can vote: <a title="Vote for Travel Generation" href="http://tinyurl.com/voteTG">http://tinyurl.com/voteTG</a></p>
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		<title>Why many of the online travel forums don&#8217;t get it</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Feb 2008 03:01:44 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Dan Roberts</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Many you will have noticed a change in title of this post.  I think my blood might have been boiling a bit much when I launched into it earlier today.  Nonetheless, I believe that the likes of Lonely Planet Thorn Tree and Boots n All are perpetuating lies and slander about travel companies through their policies of denying tourism companies access to their forums.  Thinly disguised competitors bag other companies and armchair travellers not interested in anything other than their own egos post thousands of bigoted comments while real traveller questions go unanswered and serious discussion fails to take place.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class="tweetmeme_button" style="float:right; position:relative; right:184px; top:34px;"><a href="http://api.tweetmeme.com/share?url=http%3A%2F%2Fxebidy.com%2Fwhy-lonely-planet-thorn-tree-and-boots-n-all-are-fed%2F"><img src="http://api.tweetmeme.com/imagebutton.gif?url=http%3A%2F%2Fxebidy.com%2Fwhy-lonely-planet-thorn-tree-and-boots-n-all-are-fed%2F" height="61" width="51" /></a></div><p>Following on from yesterdays post regarding the very real problem <a href="http://www.ozexperience.com" title="Oz Experience">Oz Experience</a> are facing with the third search result being completely negative about Oz Experience we went through many of the social media sites such as <a href="http://www.travelblog.com" title="Travelblog">Travelblog</a>, <a href="http://www.lonelyplanet.com" title="Lonely Planet">Lonely Planet,</a> <a href="http://www.bugaustralia.com" title="BUG Australia">BUG</a> and so on and reviewed a bit more closely what people were saying about the company.</p>
<p>Generally it is pretty good but there are a number of people in these forums that are hell bent on slagging the company off regardless &#8211; in fact, when I looked really closely the same people seemed hell bent on slagging off most independent companies trying to do their own thing.  You have to wonder if they are not simply competitors or what their self interested motive is.  The frustrating thing we noticed was the number of honest questions being asked that were not being answered &#8211; such as someone asking if they could be told about Surf Camp and the answers being such insightful things as &#8220;Greyhound goes there &#8211; don&#8217;t use Oz Experience&#8221;  &#8211; and nothing about the surf camp itself.</p>
<p>We decided that  we would try creating a thread in some of these sites in which Oz Experience staff made themselves available to answer any questions and feedback and also to announce the new website if anyone had any wish to stick their sixpence in their as well.  I thought this was a brave move as we are basically entering the lions den; and yes, within a few hours the mud-slinging on the Lonely Planet forum started by a couple of users asking about sex and calling the trip &#8220;the f&#8230; truck&#8221; etc.  Bruce Thurlow on behalf of Oz Experience continued to humour their banter with honest answers and opinions.  He was not hiding anything.    The guys making the comments however were just being shear bloody minded &#8211; not giving him a chance  and most likely intimidating any reasonable users who may have had a serious question.  These guys had 3,000 + and 8,000+ posts to their names &#8211; clearly people who do a lot of travel from the armchair in front of their computers, and neither of them had travelled on Oz Experience!</p>
<p>Nonetheless, Lonely Planet  removed the thread within hours and Boots n All within an hour &#8211; not even letting the conversation get going.  Quite frankly this is wrong!  Their justification is no commercial promotion in the site.  Sure, but what about truthfulness.  Guys are able to exist in these forums basically bagging tourism operators s without the operators being able to be themselves and fight their own corner.  All that leads to is companies hiding behind aliases further bagging their competitors.</p>
<p>Is it legal that these sites can have these discussions about companies without their involvement?  Oz Expereince is a trademarked name and going back to yesterdays post these companies are gaining search engine traffic based on these terms which are proprietary &#8211; perhaps the only course of action is that these forums either open these doors to the tourism companies to be involved or they remove every post and thread that refers to a company directly or indirectly.  After all we all know that the TV show Big Brother blocks out the sound every time the conversation drifts to a person or company that is not on the show in fear of legal reprisals.  Most companies trademark their keywords and as such competitors can&#8217;t use them in Adwords campaigns etc., what&#8217;s the difference here?</p>
<p>What are the travel communities scared of by banning tourism companies from getting involved and fighting their corner anyway?  Let&#8217;s be honest the readers of these sites are not stupid.  If Bruce from Oz Experience clearly identified as such starts hammering a bad word about an alternative product they are going to see through it pretty quickly.  If he over promotes his products with flowery superlatives again his information will be seen as marketing hyperbole and users will leave the thread discounting his  posts.  Instead sites such as Lonely Planet and Boots n All are perpetuating a load of slander and one sided rubbish by guys such as larc and ianw  who can not surely be reliable sources of travel information while they are able to sit there all day banging out thousands of posts, which would be virtually impossible for a real traveller to do  &#8211; without doing what they are supposed to do  &#8211; provide a medium for discussion and information flow.</p>
<p>If you would like to see the forum thread before it was shut down by Lonely Planet you can view it <a href="http://www.xebidy.com/wp-content/uploads/lonelyplanet/" title="Lonely Planet Oz Experience forum thread" target="_blank">here</a></p>
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